From their text messages & hers to friends you can tell he was trying to make her believe they had a chance & things were getting better. A monster! Watts claimed that he snapped and strangled his wife when he found her murdering the girls, but he later pleaded guilty to all three murders. The autopsy is commenced at 1030 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Shanann Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. You get to know the people involved in a criminal investigation pretty well after writing 4 x 30 000+ word narratives. Page 582, 6. I mean, nothing can be done of course, it is done and is over of course, I am stating the very obvious. Or putting her down. Death by asphyxiation in each case. One thing that was truthful that came out of NKs mouth was that he lied about everything. 2. And the life insurance policies out on the 3 girls, not sure Nico yet, was not very much at all. My question is how do you smother someone with your bare handscover/press their nostrils and mouths? She also could not stand Shannan. If Chris *hadnt* killed them, would he have gone to so much trouble to hide the bodies? He said it took minutes, the police reports say. Not whether you or most people would or wouldnt do that do you think Shanann was the type of person to do that? Supposedly he took them out of school and said they wouldnt be coming back. Diana, this is something several of us have noted as well. That is what this whole thing boils down to, Chris not wanting a divorce for the simple fact of having to pay child support on 3 kids. Jami I have 1 question for you. This autopsy is performed at the request of the Weld County Coroner, State of Colorado. Bella was face up in the oil tank. I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. I guess we would never know and it wouldnt make any difference on his sentence. Or perhaps he left when the sun was coming up because thats when he usually left for work. I hope he gets what he deserves while he is in prison!!!!!! Hes asked whether Shannan was strangling CeCe or smothering her, at first he says strangling because this is the only thing that makes his story believable but afterwards he knows theyll be no marks so he says hes not sure. Anyways, interesting theories guysthanks! I dont think I know everything, but I do know more about this case than most. Something that might help with perspective is this financial article in which a wife writes in for advice, because her husband has started sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to a cult: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-woman-made-a-life-changing-decision-after-her-husband-gave-600000-to-a-cult-2017-07-10 . Theres another case that does involve a murder by a husband on a bed, through manual strangulation, and they found small drops of his and her blood on the sheets, as well as traces of her feces elsewhere in the room. etc. I wore my bra at night sometimes as well while pregnant because they become larger, heavier and more tender. Police saw a bed sheet. As far as OCD I dont believe she had it This shows how little insight you have into this case, and into who Shanan was in particular. The second dog was simply a tracker dog, not trained for cadavers but to track a missing person. While I agree MLM is 100% a pyramid scheme and bad news and that the long term use of their products probably do more harm than good (e.g. Or do they just know? A . He pushes her off CeCe and strangles her with both hands ( he demonstrates ) Sounds like a good theory except that Bella did fight for her life as the coroner explained by the hole in her frenulum, the biting of her tongue & insides of her cheeks. She was wearing a black or gray t-shirt and blue underwear. I think she was going to do what most of us who suspect our man of cheating would do, see who the server was, and go to the restaurant with a pic of Chris & ask who he was in there with. It is most likely that the girls were dead by 6 PM Sunday night already, which was why Chris couldnt reschedule the murders as soon as he heard ShanAnns flight would be delayed, thereby cutting dangerously into his cleanup time. But thats me. Why else would he go there with 3 bodies? (He left the house as the sun was coming upmore on this below). The autopsy is commenced at 1730 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Celeste Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. I have to point out that Shanann DID have marks on her face there was a line of small circular bruises running from beneath her chin and up the left side of her face towards her temple. They are The People Of The Lie. (Scott Peck). I find it more comfortable & Ive always been afraid of sagging. but I dont think she ever went upstairs, not even to check on the girls. He resented how close they all were and was sadistic enough to hurt her. He also is the male submissive in F/m relationships. As a woman, I never go to sleep with my bra on. First of all- the digestive tract is long. A trillion to bullshit thats what they are!!! And about the **bra thing** (on or off, sleep or not), well this is a big deal to me, because I think it can be considered an indicator as to time of death, or at least, it can confirm she had the chance to get out of the clothes she came home in before she was attacked and killed. They probably already had an emotional conversation before she left for Phoenix and he had made up his mind to do what he did. He was asleep. Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. He just didnt want another baby. My husband is 62, weighs 190 lb. Just kind of odd. Celeste and Bellas bodies were each inside one of the tanks. He may have sprung himself on her in the bathroom, came in after her and turned the light off or something, being an easier/tiled place to clean up any traces? Also, I highly doubt Shanann was killed by pulling her down onto her back. Good work. Please review our privacy policy here: https://heavy.com/privacy-policy/, Copyright 2023 Heavy, Inc. All rights reserved. His mom I think knew about it prior. Lack of defensive injuries. And to come home to a cheating bum! Its in the autopsy x. I dont know why the Watts murders have affected me like this. They should have been talked to later. yes, that is great, there is no mention at all that there was any of the toxic mix of oil, water and sludge that was in Bellas stomach, thankyou for pointing that out Nick. I found nothing unusual with that part. My husband and I wrestle and if he sits on my chest with my arms by my side, I cant move. ~KSmallz. This would also suggest that the Stranglehold was done with a right arm, as this would correlate to the right-sided internal bruising, and the left-sided external bruising. I dont know her daily habits, but i use mine as an alarm. Shanann had extensive injuries to her neck. Terrifying to think he could have put them in the tanks still alive but incapacitated. He has proven to be a pathalogical liar and nothing he has said before or after his conviction can be proven as truth. That goes against every human primal instinct we have, it just wouldnt happen. He went from great dad to not wanting anything to do with them, me or any responsibilities. Peanuts and tree nuts are VERY different, and supposedly CeCe had a *tree nut* allergy coconut, not peanuts! RIP Angels. Her office was described as unorganized and sort of messy, as were closets, drawers, and things out of sight. She wouldnt have gone to bed without her phone. Just like those rare occasions where you laughed so hard you peed in your pants, you will pee and poop in the spontaneous relaxation of your muscles following death. Based on Shanann having no defensive wounds, just the marks on her neck, I think he waited for her in bed, then after he felt she was either asleep or fully relaxed he rolled over on top of her and pinned her down somehow and then gripped around her neck. Shan'ann seemed to have a fairly mild case. Or do you believe his lies, that she harmed the kids and then he did same to her? Do you think she was murdered elsewhere? I have always slept with a bra on and I am 43 years old, always. Was there no evidence of feces on the girls beds either so maybe they were not killed in bed? She also had Lupus, and was 15-16 weeks pregnant, which could have been the reason why she wasnt feeling well. Shan'ann Watts -Autopsy,grave details.Graphic! Not everyone poops when they die, in fact most do not. I agree with you Jessica She had everything she needed on the ground floor kitchen for food and drink, office to make haircare purchases, bathroom and toilet and a big sofa with a huge blanket left on it as shown in the initial welfare check police body-cam footage. 4. She is OCD and very ritualistic in nature. Dont mislead people into believing there should be feces in the location of a murder. My opinion, when Nicole Atkinson said Shanann was OCD, I think she was using the term loosely, as a description, not a diagnosed disorder. Completely empty stomach contents doesnt necessarily indicate they died when Shanann died. Or after kids went to bed, and Im sure she didnt want to become an instant Mom! I tend to have the feeling ; with the way the justice system and penalties are enforced in the US .that he is probably in solitary confinement for his own protection!! So while he would have possibly had more of a mess to clean up with ShanAnn than with the girls, it was contained, unlike the mess of that horrid Patrick Frazee who killed Kelsey Berreth by braining her with a baseball bat. Shes not going to carry her suitcase up the stairs because of her pregnant state, and she wasnt feeling well. Perhaps they had one via phone or text. My theory is that he had started to be nicer to her, as evidenced by her text to her friend Cassie the night before she left for the trip. ShanAnn claimed to be pulling down $80,000 a year. And that she looked at him as she died. ( oh & yes there were handprints in both sides of her neck according to autopsy ) on his arms? The girls were described as light sleepers, and I wonder if this was because in fact they were sleeping too much, because wow, that is a lot of sleep, even for their ages. During decomposition, gasses cause stuff to come out but thats a different matter. He kills both witnesses and the rest is history. My closets and nightstand is much cleaner than hers and I dont have OCD. So what are you saying? Shanann is very OCD about organization and planned the entire wedding. This sick bastard should have done everyone a favor and took his own life. They say the questions had nothing to do with infidelity so it doesnt matter whether or not he had an affair. Watts previously told investigators that Shannan's killing was a spur-of-the-moment crime of passion and didn't admit to planning it. She even labelled food in her kitchen. I actually have been turned upside down by this murder, and through watching over 42 hours of video, have grown to love and admire Shannan! I actually don't understand this and would think the opposite would actually be true. All these people do is lie. And his mistress tells him she wants to be the one to have his first boy prior to the murders and surprise after finding out she is having a boy , she is now dead. The FBI agents had already profiled that the wife had been strangled because theyd been through the house with luminol & found no blood splatter, and because children were involved also believed smothering was involved. But I think she had some difficulty in raising and tolerating young children. At least I would have. In addition, it became clear that she used bed as a punishment. This was filmed during the police officers body cam footage. like others, cannot wrap my brain around his behavior. Its completely obvious from videos that the wife was a nut job, self absorbed, controlling weirdo that undermined her husband constantly..so leave her ass!! The autopsy reports for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters show that all three were asphyxiated to death, and it's probable that 4-year-old Bella Watts fought for her life. stop, stop. . Which is odd to me again. And did you mention that the 6 weeks Shannan was in NC with her girls that your Hero Chris Watts was enjoying 6 weeks of being single with his girlfriend, and that was the turning point in their marriage? The DA explained that it is due to decomposition and the body breaking down. At the end of the day there are no good reasons to commit murder, especially of ones own flesh and blood, but there may be valuable lessons to learn from figuring out how this could have happened. They are finger prints from his hands. Thats fine, but since thats the case, its better that you head elsewhere where youll feel more comfortable. Esophagus: .. October 3, 2018 / 12:35 PM / CBS Colorado. No sign of that either. Even flailing my legs they werent even reaching him. With her like this would the conspiracy theory about her killing not happening until Tues or Wed not be possible? One of the unknowns in this case is why Watts did what he did. I would like to read the discovery how do I find it? FACT: They were out of town and it was still spotless. Here is what the International OCD Foundation says. Theres really not much to say about this, right? I was in one temporarily an Acai drink, it really tried to make you ocd about $ and prestige attaining the unattainable honestly. https://jcp.bmj.com/content/54/5/348, This is why Shanann had no defensive injuries, and this technique would account for everything in her autopsy, from blood alcohol/ethanol levels to an unbroken hyoid bone No traces of fecal material found, but in the Rohde case there were fecal traces. I meant three perfectly formed humans. Actually I have a sad experience of watching both my mother and brother pass away in front of me. The trauma dogs noted hot spots in the basement. They went to her house and observed her car in the garage. 3. She was not drinking while pregnant! Colorado is very rural. I am in Australia and I came across this story by accident and I am just horrified. I had assumed all the way through that he had used a pillow. It was all a complete lie. Asshole should have never been presented and damn plea deal. Have they watched something? The girls were just in their pajamas; they werent wrapped in blankets. Chris is a monster. Christopher Watts, the husband of pregnant Shanann Watts and the father of Bella and 3-year-old Celeste, pleaded guilty to killing all three in August. She often plied them with food and treats and I just felt like she needed to set some boundaries. Would he have cleaned up Shannans stuff if he didnt kill them? Chris cleaned all that up so quickly and completely? In the report, (link below) stories of financial devastation, destruction of relationships, and even murders and suicides paint a vivid picture of an industry built on lies and deception a business that focuses its greedy eyes on the naive and the vulnerable. I know, Im a survivor of strangulation. Watts has since pleaded guilty to killing his wife and daughters, as well as a charge of unlawful termination of a pregnancy. There was no oil in Ceces stomach. Theres just too much, including motive, he wanted a life with Nicole with no disturbances. I am very new to this case, only a couple of months ago, end of November 2020 to be precise. He stated in a letter to the reporter woman that he remembers her face streaking with mascara and blood filling her eyes. Chris Watts attacked her from behind, his left hand around her throat and his right hand covering her mouth and nose. And if the girls mentioned a nikki shanann may just assume her friend. This was the 6th MLM that ShanAnn had been involved in she was apparently a MLM junkie. Watts pleaded guilty to murdering Shanann, Celeste and Bella to avoid the death penalty. Or look up the video of the DA talking about the autopsies. Autopsy reports for Bella and Celeste say that the necks of the children were swabbed even though they were in a container of oil, water, and associated sludge matter. Between the two preferences, a lot of interaction was visible. Believe meeven the worst of the worst, hardened criminals do NOT like baby killers.they WILL do to him what he did to his babiesjust a matter of time one of those inmates having NOTHING to lose, lifetime sentences.CW is NOT going to live long once hes let out of his isolated cageGuards will make sure a door gets left open, backs turnedthey HATE baby killers toowe all do. He was a mechanic. while he killed them one after another. They said they found paper bags around both her hands. On Aug. 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann, 34, in their Colorado home. He says with a halphazard yeah she was like for sure gone, she was blue, and no beats, no breaths, nothing. Where was all the money from that house? Now thats one of the main ways that most lay people think of first but he was coming up with these weird ways but distancing himself from strangling. It wouldnt have mattered about sleeping in the same bra and panties as shed travelled in she was going to be waking up at 4am when Chris woke as shed asked him to wake her and the hair care product purchase attempt was around 2am, so what would 2 more hours mean? He cared more about his 2 month relationship with that home wrecker then the 6 years he spent with his wife and the lives of his children. Youre obviously trolling! Several life experiences may also have contributed to and promoted OCD-like behaviours in Shanann too the loss of financial control during bankruptcy, divorce, car accident, illness etc all contribute to a person seeking the need for regaining control of their life which can manifest as a place for everything and everything in its place behaviours. Much more interest in the case in his home state; in Wisconsin, hes just a number. She felt that he is going out to pour oil on the bodies to dispose of them. Her husband spoke to Chris and he was not shedding a tear about his missing family..